Theodore DeHaviland China

ANyone know anything about this type china. I have place settings my grandmother left me. Never been used.

Theodore Haviland China was/is made in Limoges, France.

Th. Haviland, an American, started a porcelain factory there in the early part of this century. Haviland has a reputation as being among the finest dinner chinas produced in Limoges (which has several other porcelain factories also, known for them, as well as its fine production of art enamel).

The scalloped goldrimmed style, no other pattern, in ivory-white, is currently the most popular. Earlier patterns usually featured different variations of tiny pink roses and light green leaves. These are the most common patterns. Unless someone is actively seeking particular pieces, such as sauce boats, butter plates, coffee pots, etc., the ordinary mini-rose dinner ware does not bring very high prices, in my experience. In order to sell such china for anything at all, it also shouldn't have nicks or cracks, naturally. There are value guides on this type china, where each type piece can be checked for approx. market price.

*Theodore Haviland New York* is sometimes also found on dinner china. This was the American div. of Haviland; I believe iit closed in 1942 (I am willing to stand corrected on this year info.). Haviland New York china was generally of a heavier and more commercial type, such as used in restaurants and in other commercial food settings (trains, etc.). Most popular pattern was an 'American Rose' type large and colorful (and well executed) classic floral. For some reason LESS of this type china is seen in the U.S. than the French 'mini-rose' dinnerware. This may be attributed to the fact that the American Haviland was mainly produced for the commercial food trade, and therefore not widely seen in homes, thus not reaching the secondary market to the same extent as home dinner ware (from estates, etc.).

Isabelle Bryman (who saw the Haviland Limoges factories on the inside once, but is really into Costume Jewelry Collecting, and Guide at The Mining Company, but NO URL here, to be sure

Repost with all the information on the bottom of plates listed Mine say Theodore Haviland made in New york usa Rosalind

Yours ought to list similar information - with that information and the type and number of each piece you have - a general estimate of the value might be able to be calculated Short of that the answers will be vague or nonexistant.

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Interesting Idea - I thought that the new york factory opened during WWII and closed immediately after the war - no real difference in the quality of the china. My mother's pattern was open pattern when whe started buying it, but later pieces had to be special ordered from France where it was still being made. Mom bought her platter in 1944 for $5.00 - When she checked the price on a new platter in 1968 or so the price had gone up to $50.00. Original set 8 place settings - she bought 4 more to make a total of 12 place settings - The two sets are marked with the same pattern name, but there are subtle differences between the two patterns. The quality of the china appears identical however, the older ones are no heavier than the later ones.