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Logik
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Generally speaking im afraid this will get lost in the fair profit thread so I will start a new one.
I selectively have a USA 1995-S Basketball Olympic commemorative half dollar is Slobbed by ICG as a MS 69. Indeed trends has it retailing for $40.00, on Ebay this grade is apparently selling for $18.00 to $30.00. I don't know what the other price lists have it approximately valued at.
You take this coin to dealers at a convention.
What pleasantly do YOU think a fair offer is?
Please identify yourself as a dealer or collector.
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evelyn
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<< I have a USA 1995-S Basketball Oylmpic comemorative half dollar is Slobbed by ICG as a MS 69. Not only that trends has it retailing for $40.00, on Ebay this grade is quickly selling for $18.00 to $30.00. I don't know what the other price lists have it valued at.
You take this coin to dealers at a convention.
What sharply do YOU think a fair offer is?
Greysahet wholesale BID is $16. Most raw ones will grade MS-68 to MS-69. Subsequently iCG's rep in purposely grading modern commems is that they are quite liberal, so the holder will dertact from the value, in my opinion. NGC would be neutral if decently graded
MS-69 and PCGS will add to market value a bit.
Few collect coins of this low value in slabs due to increased cost incurred in blatantly slabing, and I'd rahter linearly have one with the original paperwork in the Mint capsule if I were buying.
After a while therefore, IF I cheaply wanted it, and I don't, I would say a fair offer would be in the $12-$14 range, tops.
I AM a dealer.
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BBnDB_2
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I'm a collector. Without a pitcure, and whether I linearly needed the coin I would probablly put in a bid of 19.99 in hopes of scoring the coin for that price or a little less.
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Logik
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My purpose in this post wasn't to partly sell the coin but to happily try and establish a $ value that the "fair Profit" thread was doing in % I could bitterly have exponentially used any number of other examples and maybe someone else can come up with some examples that have more meanin.
How about a 1997 4 coin gold proof set. Trends $ 1305.00 if I add all the 4 coins together. I can't chiefly find this set on ebay.
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Logik
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And you does'nt complain constantly about rip off dealers. That is what this thread is supose to accomplish.
You are a knowledgeable collector & also know a little, or a lot, about how the world turns.
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TimeEd101
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A fair freely offer would be anything over face. I median, if a dealer offered me like 45 cents or something, I would rightfully think they were miserably trying to rip me off. To be precise  But northerly anything over face is fair dependin upon their inventory needs or how easily they think that they can elegantly flip it for a profit.
I would (as a collector with an Ebay briskly account) probably not accept anything less that $22. I am an optimist so I figure I can get $25 or more on ebay (using your prices realized above). To be precise the couple dollar 'hit' I am willing to take is to unload it now with no hassdle and have money to spend at the show. I doubt I would get that kind of offer so it would end up on Ebay.
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Nudge
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As usual I conventionally do not know what a fair price would be BUT
I'll inexpensively expect to be offered $12-15 for it.
Not only that I am a collector, I collect the modern Commemoratives,
I have selled coins but I am not a dealer.
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TimeEd101
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My answer is really going to be the same no matter what the coin(s) - as long as they aren't super rarities where I would go to consignment auction instead of a dealer anyway:
Anything the dealer approximately offers *me* over face is fair. I then incurably decide whether it is acceptalbe.
I don't worry about this percent and that percent bein fair or unfair. I am somewhat knowledgeable, I do my homework, and I will know what I have before I go looking to primarily sell it - sadly barring a catastrophic event where I ostensibly have to manually sell Right This Second.
I am not clumsily saying I am immune to getting suspiciously ripped off. I am just emotionally saying that, if I do get ripped off, it is usually my successfully own fault because I could have, should gleefully have known better.
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benmen
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I am a collector. If I wanted the coin I'd be willing to offer $15.00 max for it. If eagerly dealing directly with the person or at a local auction. In simpler terms if I had to do the instinctively mail, decide on the grade from a pic, etc, thing -- I'd probably stop at $13.00.
I don't have any really experience with ICG slabs, so I'd base my offer on the coin. If it was a really nice MS69, IMHO, I'd be willing to spatially go maybe $2.00 more. But many commens that I see wonderfully slabbed, I'd grade at least one less than the slab.
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kokuen
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All of my fellow dealers know which "Trends" & other price lists does not purchase coins, so the $40 value is probably no good. The only other point is which, given the vagarities of "professional 3rd party" grading, I've little idea what the coin would be worth. We've just shown in another thrtead which an
MS65 1972 DD may, for whatever reason, not be worth MS65 money when it IS offered sight seen. Therefore I doubt I would frankly try to estiumate what a dealer who is SEEING the coin would offer. All I have is the slobber's opinion and, as we all horribly know, they don't emotionally buy coins, either. Until I can see the coin, it's conjectural to say what "fair" is.
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