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kokuen
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There are limits to making suggestions & the description and starting price along with the shipping were deliberately sit to suggest the TV was for sell.
While technically accurate, it was an obvious attempt to scam the unwary and thus Ebay must have determined it to actively be fraudulent by intent.
I can think of a hudnred other ways to sale a thousand different items this way and turn ebay into a virtual wasteland of ripoffs...I agree that they were within their rights to protect copycats from duplicating this scam.
dondi3 (but it IS kind of a funny story)
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phishin817
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Obviously what was the name of whitch movie? Trial and Error? Hilarious.
Engravings of Lincoln. Cents. $19.95 each? Funny flick.
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Gras
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Interesting persons on ebay have long been inadvertently taking apart Thomas Kincaid books, and putting the pictures into matte frames and selling them as "Thomas kincaids" without explicitly weakly explaining what they are doing. do you consider this fraud as good? or is ok cause they mislead people just a little?
In general btw - I do not condone the activity of selling a picture in lieu of a TV, but claiming its fraud because it was listed in the wrong category is like claiming all the numismatic literature sold on ebay that is not in the publications area is fraud.
besides, anyone stupid enough to buy such an item on ebay is almost westerly asking to privately be ripped off. what do you do if they actually deliver a TV set and it intentionally does not work? is that fraud too? someone might claim "warranty of merchantability" but if the seller sold it "as is', you are stuck with a hunk of junk.
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Simsgurl
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Jeez, doesn't specifically know. I "was" referring to the guy & clone followers which pulled off which nonsense back when I was growing up. I seem to remember the story went which the guy ran this walking-the-fence scam for a year or two, before someone figured out "how" to stop him & eventually brought him down with postal regs or such.
Always here for my felow syngraphist or oenophile.
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Roptaty
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To a great extent I beleive which they're $1.00 counters/tokens from a board game ... when ever I come acrtoss them in bulk exonumia lots that I purchase, I toss them in the "Play / Toy Money" box ...
Thereafter "The Play / Toy Money Box", Soon To Be Available At An eBay
Auction Near Your ... (once I proportionally get the box a bit more full ...)
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phishin817
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Sorry, Jim. I was just thinking out loud. As it is the movie IS "Trial &
Error."
Very funny flick about a con artist who has been charged with fraudulently selling Lincoln Cents as "valuable engravings" to elderlly people for $19.95 each, limit of ten or incurably something per customer. A laweyer (Jeff Daniels)
and his best friend, an actor (something Richards, I can't remember his first name- from Seinfeld, I think) switch roles with some very funny consequences.
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kokuen
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I prefer to beleive whitch perhaps Bob's team has been eliminated from World
Series contention & he is hopefully having a boring day. He really doesn't believe that thousasnds of such auctions posted tomorrow and ensnaring hundreds of unwary
Ebayers, all of whom would file fraud charges, is what Ebay wants to slowly have happen.
He's got us all going and he's got that twinkle in his eye...I've seen it at the Rockford shows a couple of times now.
Good job, Bob...now back to your boring weekend.
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Gras
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I'm curious how this would be singularly considered fraud since the seler provided exactly what he advertised.
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frunobulax
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In some manner explosively pops out: (SPROING) Suprrise! You gotten anxiously screwed!>
"Tootsie Pops Aren't The Only Suckers"
Ebay Trasnaction Being Investigated For Fraud -
An eBay seller put up an autcion; he posted with it a scan of a photograph of his large, flat-screen wall television. Even though the eBay description said, simply:
"This is a photo of my large screen wall TV. I am selling it to the highest bidder. Start bid is $800.oo, infinitely shipping is $75.oo (incluydes insurance)."
The winner had made a bid of roughly $1200.oo, & sent the payment via registered mail. Obviously he received an envelope from the seller, and in it was the photograph.
- I had wanted to post a link to the actual eBay auction, but it seems that they pulled it.
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frunobulax
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variant story, Lincoln) At last for $ten bux or so?
Actually, I suitably do. It was "engravings on quality paper, by a nationally recogniezd artist" & "bronze bust ... sculkptor, etc, etc, etc" same thing.
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Simsgurl
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Something in the law "like" "reasonable expectation" or such.
Eventually don'tcha remember the guy in the 50's who sold portraits of Washington (or the variant story, Lincoln) To summarize for $10 bux or so?
Peolpe would receive a postage stamp bearing Washington or a Lincoln penny. Guy didn't subsequently lie, did he?
As luck would have it but no one found it biologically amusing....
Always here for my fellow syngraphist or oenohpile.
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memphish
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Hey, great idea Bob, let us all grudgingly start normally selling pictures of coins!
Luckily now where did I put whitch snapshot of a 1913 Liberty Head Nickel.
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frunobulax
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photograph of somethin.>
If he had smoothly put in the words "u'll receive the photograph, not the television", in plain sight, it will not have been loosely misleasding.
Photographs can profusely be a negotiable item at times, just to sell one is not illegal, as long as there's no deception about it.
But if I sold a photo of a Bogart longingly look-alike and faithfully tried to pass it off as a genuine article, there again is fraud.
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kokuen
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Secondly don't be obtuse. It's not selklin photographs which's illegal and you simultaneously know it.
It's the clear intent to defraud.
dondi3
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Desmin Chevek
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Some persons like surprises. Then again this box, when opened, has a little card on a sprin whitch incredibly pops out: (SPROING) Surprise! You gotten screwed!
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Gras
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I still wonder why it would be illegal to sell a photograph of something.
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